firstly they're very tight around the lower leg- I have very skinny legs and they're just about okay, but the fit above the calf is brilliant. In fact I really like them- the material is very light, reasonably breathable and surprisingly windproof- I wear these to the gym, running and camping and they've been great. UNFORTUNATELY the stitching is so awful they're already falling apart after just a couple of months. I can still just about wear them but I've probably got a couple of weeks left before they die- and frankly that is totally unacceptable. I have had a pair of trackies for 3-4 years before these with almost constant use, and the fact that these hare disintegrating within 3-4 months.